References - hormone prescriptions

Amanda_3 · Posted: Oct 02, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: References - hormone prescriptions

Use this resource to investigate your hormone prescriptions for Progynova

http://www.appco.com.au/appguide/drug.asp?drug_id=00074356&t=cmi

Join this group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CRONE_portal

to find out the most appropriate regimes.

Be careful and double check your doctors recommendations.

Anee · Posted: Oct 04, 2006 10:24 am Post subject:

Very good links, there is some also on Spiro

Gives info on MTF TS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spironolactone

Love, Anee.

Georgette_Anderson · Posted: Nov 20, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject:

Hi, I'm Jane Anderson
Many moons ago I did some searching on the net about feminising myself. I cam across a product called www.bountifulbreasts.com and affiliate www.transfemme.com. I decided that this was the product to go for. Searches on the net also warned about synthetic hormones and cancer risks. This was not limited to some sites but across the board.
I am looking for more. Breasts fine. Becoming female requires breasts, secondary reshaping ie fat redistribution and traits as well. Also mentioned reports of female estrogen levels year or two after the course of 12-13 months, therefore no continious drug intake. This product converts testestorone to estrogens elimating the use of anti-androgens, retraining the body. It was patented. No other product I could see could do this including www.transformation.co.uk . Since then others have come up but unclear to how they work.
I have taken this product for 4.5 months with positive results but communication with transfemme is not at best. Therefore regretted to discountinue the product. But the results were there. yes my breasts reacted one week into taking it tingling for the first two weeks even a discharge, and yes there was reshaping and yes there was female traits. I was also walking different someting picked up by my other half.
I did go to a gender center where I went thru part of the system. I told the doctor what I was taking. He could not support me as he did not know the product and could not endorse it. He then refered me to the mainstream hormone replacement which is synthetic. He had reports and scientific papers on mainstream hormone replacement from which he was not going to budge. Maybe from insurance point of view perhaps. Playing it safe. Something else also bothered me that he said progesterone had no effect, contary to sites of advanced science. I firmly believe progesterone is important in transgender as well as natural females as it has a counteracting estrogen effect. see http://www.johnleemd.com/store/premenstrual_syndrome.html
Part One [to be continued]
Jane

Alexandra · Posted: Dec 01, 2006 10:03 am Post subject:

Hello,

I have read the articles on breast enlargement and taking hormones, and i like to say that I have been taking hormones from www.transformation.com for 8 months now and also spironolactone for 2 month. I now have small breasts and my bodyhair has not grown back since I shaved it of 5 weeks ago.

The thought of taking hormones has however started me thinking and now i am taking the capsules from www.transfemme.com.

I am in my 6th week now and my nipples are starting to grow more.

I do believe in the products of "transfemme. com", have done a lot of research and i am sticking to it.

There is a money back quarantie and they trying to get a patent on this, so they must be confident it works.

As far as corresponding with both, i have had a lot of encouragenment from Claudia from transformation.com and Julie from www.transfemme.com has been very helpfull and replying everytime i asked her for advice.

I bought the moneyback quarantee pack of 13.5 months from transfemme and i am taking the required dosages with a protein shake every day untill it is finished, and than i will have large breasts, a female body and loving it.

I have nothing to lose only to gain a female body. and a possitive attitude goes a long way too. Smile

with love,

Alexandra. Very Happy

Georgette_Anderson · Posted: Dec 02, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Hormones

part 2 of the post. But I have had bad experiences from both transfemme and transformation, both from which I have purchased product several times.
The bad experiences are from lack of information. Yes they may have something on the net but for me it is not enough. The www.transfemme.com "blog"is more to what I need to be satisfied. To email questions and no one wants to know is not limited to the two above. The questions I asked transfemme are dosages. After the first couple of months BB "bountifulbreasts", I was taking the standard 2 caps a day dosage, obviously to get the body used to it. In 24-48hrs my breasts were tingling like little explosions all over and in a week or so a discharge, one off. Shit, now it's happening and you start thinking, Yeah it's really happening now. The reason I was asking was in the 3rd to 4th month there seemed no progress. I know there is a rest period but it seemed a little long for me. I did take Whey Isolate as suggested and L Tyrosine and kept the beast area warm as a certain temperature range is most ideal for best results. I did find that when the breast area was cooler ie presperation and a breeze when working, my arola became small and enlarged to a 50 cent piece when the area warmed up again.
On the net, I did come across reports that stubborn cases require up to 6 caps a day however I was treading cautiously. There was also a mention that taking more caps would not help. I asked a question about my weight and dosages and it fell on deaf ears, again and again. Experimenting with 3 caps a day I was getting results but I did this only for 3 days. I was gauging this on odd tingling nipple tenderness and breast firmness. I wanted confirmation. again email after email fell on deaf ears. I also asked transfemme if anti-androgens may help, no reply, no reply, no reply. Not only that, on one occasion the info line sent my email back as spam.
As I was not satisfied with transfemme, went to www.transformation.co.uk asked some basic questions and purchased leg & thigh cream, anti-androgens, female hormone precussors and female chromosome enhancers.
I took a 3 months supply. But again I wanted to know more. Questions like what is the main active ingredient of the anti-androgens. A flow chart of how the female hormone precussors work and break down [yes the little triangle ones] . How do the female chromosome enhancers work?. Many emails fell on deaf ears to transformation. I even suggest they should get in contact with their clinics where there are doctors [I hope]. I rang Beverley and Claudia several times but their knowledge was limited and that all they were virtually go to do, and I started to feel like a nusiance. I also emailed Medica the manufacturers [on transformation bottle] with no replies for further information. I looked everywhere on the net for information about chromsome enhancers. Very little info. All I was able to figure out is that the chromosome molucule does become unstable and may sheds ie. a "Y" and if there are more "X's" in the free pool of X & Y's then there is a greater chance of recombining with a "X" . But I am guessing a little but if anyone can enlighten me this would be nice.
I kept on emailing transfemme because i felt this is still the product for me. Used several other addressess and one got thru. I did confirm that anti-androgens countacts the product that releys on testestorone conversion. So XXXX this may be a problem until testestorone production comes up to speed after taking transformation anti-androgens.
I ditched transformation as well but will keep in mind the enhancing creams. I do suggest XXXX since you are thin and looking good that transfemme may have limited effects on your breasts and a breast enhancement cream may be required.
In my book there are three ways to go [1] Synthetic [2] Glandular [3] Phyto [plant] . Everywhere on the net synthetic seem to be linked to cancers, even if you are not selling a product. I believe transformation is synthetic. My breast progress with transformation for three months was very limited. I think the recomended dosage is to low for my weight.
Something else came to mind. I am going to the doctor as to say there hormonal problem and get them to check chromosomes as well.
Info; From the start bra band was 103cms as is now, breast was 107cms transfemme start and at completion of transfemme was 118cms. This gain was in the first 3 months and no gain from 3 to 4.5 months. At the end of transformation it was 119cms. I am not thin and 25% overweight and continue to deal with it as I was 50% overweight 12 months ago. To indicate there are fat reserve to go to the breast area. Don't forget everyone is different. I am just giving some idea.
in Part three The journey continues : lets try plant products or estro-glan?
Jane Anderson

susan_dowd · Posted: Dec 03, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: hormones

Thankyou for that Jane, much obliged. My endocologist just put me on the pill and spiroactane (spelling), but they were giving me health problems, and there was a little breast growth, and body hair loss, but I need to try something else.

Love Susan

Anee · Posted: Dec 03, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: hormones

Georgette_Anderson · Posted: Dec 04, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: It's a hormone adventure

Jane again. Well I was between products and not going back to synthetic. I was looking at another glandular product similar to transfemme and there is estro-glan. But I had quicker access to phyto estrogen and though I would give it a go. I went to my favourity health site www.lef.org who ship their stuff thru Fiji.
I ordered Natural estrogen #712 and as previous post [estrogens and progesterone], Pro fem cream [progesterone] #616 and as there have been many reports of overtaxing the liver, I purchased Silibinin Plus #503 [for a healty liver] amoung hosts of other items that include L Tyrosine #35 I mentioned previously.
The dosage I chose was for post menopausal women at 2 tablets a day and progesterone cream. As I obviously was not producing estrogen I would double the tablet dosage to 4 a day. Yes my nipples lit up and was working well, but I decided I need something to re sculpture the male body to the female format. I was unsure if plant based products would do this and discontinued for that reason only. I would recomend the above, but again I will say I am no doctor. It is like a journey thru a mine field of good and bad products and there is only one go at it.
I looked at purchasing Estro-glan because transfemme glandular gave me so much more including female traits not just tits. next Part 4 [to date] Boobs still at 119cms
Jane Anderson

Georgette_Anderson · Posted: Dec 06, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: A view contary to normal expectations

jane is back again,
From transfemme to the completion of phyto-estrogens something different has happened to me which goes against the grain of expectations. Taking estrogens has a added benifit of redistribution of fat in the body to become a more pleasing feminine shape. This has largly happened but where i would expect fat to accumulate the reverse has happened. After thinking about it in the last week I have come up with a theory as well.
Area one where I lost fat was in the lower buttocks & top of legs where there was loose skin, Second area I lost weight was in the knees and above the knees where skin also became little loose, Third area where I lost fat and slackening of muscle is in the cheeks of the face. Muscle tone is one area I can look at but not all can be explained away I feel.
Theory
Once a boy reaches puberity hormones are released and the boy develops a male format similarly when a girl reaches puberity she will develop the female characteristics. Let us take normal format [build], normal weight etc in both accounts.
Male to female transformation takes place and the male body thake on characteristics of the female. If the female format is average. fine but if the female format is of a skinny female [where the skinny female characteristics in you were dormant because you were a male] then you may take on these characteristics and actually loose fat in a few areas.
Going back to my parents, my father was solid and my mother was skinny as a rake. Maybe the loss of fat in certain areas is the result of female body format from my mother that were dorment in me because I was a male.
Just thinking
Jane

Georgette_Anderson · Posted: Apr 15, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: My hormone conclusion

Well it's been a while but hormone results are not over nite

Hormone purchases from transformation.co.uk. I was on these products and results were minim.ail put positive

Estroglan and Mammary Glan conclusion was this product supplies estrogen and does not convert testosterone to estrogen. I went thru many bottle and up to 4 times the dosage with minimal results

Phytoestrogen was no real breast growth. Minimal

My blood tests showed that testosterone was still at lower male range. The only way to beat that is to go back to bountiful breasts in the USA as they claim their product converts testosterone to estrogen , the product i started on originally.
I spoke to another TR transisioner who has also gone thru phases of trying different products and both of us have given the green light for transfemme's bountifulbreasts.com product. Both of us have upgraded the dosage and she has experienced breast growth and as for myslelf, by increasing dosage from 2 to 4 or 5 caps daily I can say i am very happy with progress but it will take time. For stubborn cases transfemme has endorsed larger dosages. I purchased 9 months supply but at double dosage I will need more in 4 months. But it does work

Jane Anderson

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